One thing we try to hold dear at Coffee + Crumbs is making space for the both/and. The good and the bad. Joy and grief. Celebration and lament. Today’s conversation holds both of those things: the bliss and wonder of a new birth, and the mourning and heartache of an ended marriage. Trust us when we say: you’re going to want to keep tissues on hand for this one. 

And if we haven’t said this enough—thank you for being here. One of the biggest blessings of being a listener-supported show is that we have all of the flexibility in the world when one of our own is in crisis. We can pause. We can pivot. We can regroup. We do not take that flexibility, permission, or grace for granted. Thank you.

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